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We sat down with the three student researchers behind “Abuses in the Air”<\/a> to ask them about their experiences working on this report.\u00a0 Here’s what they had to say:<\/b><\/span><\/h3>\n
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Lukas Illa, Trevor Helmy, and Guadalupe Alex Gonzalez, three of UWCHR’s student researchers.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Andrea Marcos: Can you tell us how the \u201cAbuses in the Air\u201d report started out?<\/b><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Trevor Helmy:<\/b> It started with someone reaching out to the Center wondering about a connection between this one sports team, the air travel company they used, and ICE deportation flights. Then it kind of spiraled in a bunch of different directions. How are sports teams using the same planes ICE is using for deportation flights? Why? In the beginning, Alex and I were really heavy in the FOIA request side of things\u2014we put out a bunch of requests for contracts, paperwork. It was like a fishing expedition trying to catch something without a clear direction for it yet. We connected with Tom from Witness at the Border. They had this system for tracking, so we started tracking these planes with all these online tools, which brought out this giant web of what was going on\u2014sports teams using the same planes that ICE was using for deportation flights, and all the money being made on it.<\/span><\/p>\n

Alex Gonzalez:<\/b> From the beginning it was an overwhelming process\u00a0 <\/span>because we were some of the first people really looking into these connections. There were a lot of times where we just didn\u2019t know where to look and how to look. It was like constructing this whole web of data systems. We also had to interact with these companies that just flat out lie to your face. It can be dissuading, but the fact is, the more we look into it, the deeper it goes and the more interconnected it all is.<\/span><\/p>\n

Trevor:<\/b> We were asking questions no one wanted to answer or be accountable to. It\u2019s tricky when you have these travel brokers, and they\u2019ve been confronted about these issues before, and they just don\u2019t care. But then there\u2019s this whole other network of people who are adjacent to them\u2014universities, sports teams, owners of some of these planes\u2014and they\u2019ll take the same approach as others when asked about the connections, saying, \u201cI don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on. That\u2019s not my issue.\u201d Everyone\u2019s pointing to each other. And it\u2019s frustrating, especially when we can spend a few hours digging in and there is obviously a connection.<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cTHE FACT IS, THE MORE WE LOOK INTO IT, THE DEEPER IT GOES AND THE MORE INTERCONNECTED IT ALL IS.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Lukas Illa: <\/b>It\u2019s horrifying how much actual money these air charter companies and the brokers themselves make for even just a single deportation flight. I\u2019ve been tracking mainly the collegiate sports teams while Alex has been doing the professional sports. In collegiate sports, millions of dollars go to these companies in contracts for sports travel during their seasons. And of course, the teams and athletes that are on these planes have all this messaging around diversity and inclusion, yet they are sitting on planes used in deportation flights with documented human rights abuses occurring, sometimes just days before or after. And when we bring it up, we get hit with \u201cWhy can\u2019t you keep politics out of sports?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> Right. When we have major sports teams flying their athletes on a plane that was used to deport Haitian refugees without non-refoulement a week earlier\u2014that\u2019s not \u201ckeeping politics out of sports.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

One of our largest issues is trying to find someone to take accountability for it. We\u2019ve been trying to figure out who\u2019s responsible here for human rights abuses occurring on flights. Who\u2019s in charge of making sure people are OK? We have elected officials in Washington State who sit on committees involved in enforcing air safety standards. What are they doing?<\/span><\/p>\n

Trevor:<\/b> It\u2019s not an accident either; the way ICE uses contractors helps them evade responsibility of overseeing what is going on. It\u2019s then the private air travel companies\u2019 responsibility to report something, and that has to climb the chain to get back to ICE and be documented.<\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> Right, we\u2019re essentially asking the systems that benefit from these types of abuses to police themselves. Where\u2019s the oversight?<\/span><\/p>\n

How do you see the role of research in stopping these human rights abuses from happening?<\/b><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> Well, for one, it\u2019s hard to get information, and that is something researchers are good at. We\u2019ve been requesting contracts between universities and charter air travel companies and seeing how much they\u2019re spending, what the stipulations are. Coming into this, especially seeing how much work Alex and Trevor have done\u2014tracking each plane, where it was flying to, et cetera\u2014all of that creates a basis to put pressure on these systems we are trying to hold accountable. We are dealing with this system that has all these decentralized parts, but our research helps put that together to understand how the process is working, where the money is flowing, who is responsible.<\/span><\/p>\n

Alex: <\/b>I strongly agree. When I explain the value of our research to friends and family when they ask what we\u2019re doing, I say that while we might not always be at the frontlines of what\u2019s going on, we\u2019re helping to create toolkits, graphics, and data that can be utilized by people actively fighting for human rights. As researchers, our job is really just to get down to the basics of information, see what\u2019s happening, and share what we find in a way that others can take it and continue their work. We\u2019re working in systems that constantly are trying to make it as complicated as possible to see what\u2019s going on, so our job is to make it all fit into something understandable for people, so people can say, \u201cHey, that\u2019s messed up,\u201d because it is!<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cAT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THESE ISSUES PICKING UP OUR RESEARCH AND FINDING IT USEFUL, USING IT IN CAMPAIGNS AND LEGAL CLINICS, SEEING THAT IS INCREDIBLY MOTIVATING.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Lukas:<\/b> Right, I try to personalize it, too. Yes, it\u2019s important for us to synthesize information and put it out there for media to pick up, but it\u2019s just as important to break these things down. For instance, with this research, your average student can understand what\u2019s going on and how they or their school might be implicated in the deportation industry and be able to act on that.<\/span><\/p>\n

Trevor:<\/b> One tricky thing about research, too\u2014it can be kind of easy to lose sight of the larger picture when you\u2019re in the weeds of researching one particular hockey team and what plane they use on what day. But then there are the moments when it all comes crashing back, like when we get documents back from a FOIA request, and it\u2019s a list of twenty grievances or abuses we haven\u2019t seen anywhere else. And then you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, I know what plane that happened on! I know what teams are implicated in that.\u201d And so even though it can be difficult to be in the weeds of research, there are real-world connections that are huge. And at the end of the day, when you see people who are already working on these issues picking up on our research and finding it useful, using it in campaigns and legal clinics, seeing that is incredibly motivating.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> There\u2019s a real human cause behind everything. Sometimes there\u2019s days where I\u2019m at my computer for six hours and I\u2019m looking at the fortieth flight in a row, and eventually it all starts to merge together and become just digits on a screen. But I try to remember that every single one of these deportation flights is about thirty or forty people, people who came to the US seeking a better life and have to interact with this incredibly abusive immigration system. One thing that really firmed that up for me was when we did the sexual abuse research at the Northwest Detention Center, going through 500 pages of grievances; that was an emotionally draining process for me because it\u2019s very sad. It reminds me that everything we look at during our day as researchers carries a lot of meaning; the information we\u2019re working with, even if sometimes it\u2019s hard and confusing, there\u2019s a real cost to its production.<\/span><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> Yes, and doing research alone sometimes can feel like you\u2019re up against the system alone, one undergraduate researcher up against a whole system that can wait you out. This might seem trivial, but being together at the Center, hanging out, this keeps me in the work, keeps me hopeful. We have each other to support and it\u2019s such a key part.<\/span><\/p>\n

What will you take with you from your time with UWCHR?<\/b><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> I really appreciate how the UWCHR is rooted in the truth that it\u2019s a community effort to do human rights work. And that it takes deep connection to community organizations; it can\u2019t be a completely removed, academic, ivory tower center that operates on its own and decides what\u2019s best for the community. The basis of our work is rooted in what communities are already doing and trying to accomplish. Another thing is this work has really emphasized for me just how little faith I have in the state and an electoral process that will bring change. The systems we\u2019re trying to hold accountable are so well supported by the state. We come up with this research, we hand it to decision makers, and they often don\u2019t do anything with it unless pressured.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cWHEN WE HAVE MAJOR SPORTS TEAMS FLYING THEIR ATHLETES ON A PLANE THAT WAS USED TO DEPORT HAITIAN REFUGEES WITHOUT NON-REFOULEMENT A WEEK EARLIER\u2014THAT’S NOT ‘KEEPING POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS.<\/span>\u2019\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Trevor:<\/b> I unfortunately agree. I have cynicism about the lengths that these institutions will go to to protect the status quo. It\u2019s a hard thing to accept, but that\u2019s definitely going to stick with me from this work.<\/span><\/p>\n

Alex: <\/b>Something I\u2019ll take with me is this idea about proximity. I feel like often we hear about these horrible human rights abuses that occur overseas or in the past. And it\u2019s easy to say, \u201cWell I\u2019m glad that\u2019s not happening anywhere near me.\u201d And if this work has revealed anything for me, it\u2019s that there are horrible things occurring around us every day that we could easily have an impact on but we\u2019re simply not knowledgeable enough. It\u2019s really the importance of information. You can\u2019t really solve anything if you don\u2019t know it exists. You can\u2019t find it if you don\u2019t know what to look for. The second thing I\u2019ll take with me is the importance of verifying your information and making sure you have an iron-clad argument. When you\u2019re up against giant institutions, who often don\u2019t have their data straight, the quality of your data gives you an edge.<\/span><\/p>\n

Trevor:<\/b> I\u2019m going to be graduating and out of here in a few weeks and it\u2019s a funny feeling. There\u2019s no end point to this work, no easy, clean accomplishment that I\u2019m ending on. I\u2019m leaving a whole bunch of undone stuff for Alex and Lukas to work on. But that\u2019s just the nature of it. It takes some time to come to terms with that, but that\u2019s the nature of the work\u2014it\u2019s ongoing.<\/span><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> Oh Trevor, we\u2019re going to abolish ICE before you graduate in the next few weeks.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> I have that on my schedule for Wednesday.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> 3 o\u2019clock right? See you there. \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

What advice do you have for future UWCHR student researchers?<\/b><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Trevor:<\/b> Take better notes! The biggest breakthroughs we\u2019ve had have come through the tiniest of details. Pay constant attention; keep track of everything as best you can.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> If you have grounds to object, object to your fullest extent, especially when it comes to challenging big institutions in your research. Never just take \u201cno\u201d from them. If you think that you can make an argument against them as per the information, do it. Because there are many times where we worked for months, and then we finally got a breakthrough. You have to be incessant about it. It doesn\u2019t matter if you feel like you\u2019re being annoying. Good! That\u2019s exactly what you should be. You\u2019ve got to make sure that when they dream, they think about your emails in their head. You need to be a constant presence in the back of their mind. Question everything and challenge everything.<\/span><\/p>\n

Lukas:<\/b> Rely on each other in your research team.\u00a0 <\/span>And trust yourself. Rely on the skills that you have. I love public records requests, I love digging through them and making connections. And there have been parts of this project that I haven\u2019t felt as strong in, but my other researchers are great at. Use that!\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Alex:<\/b> Agreed, everything we do here builds on each other\u2019s efforts. It\u2019s a collective process. Without one of our contributions, this wouldn\u2019t have been the same.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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UWCHR infographic showing the connection between sports teams and the deportation of Haitian asylum-seekers.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Read the full report that Alex, Trevor, and Lukas worked on here.<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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